1 00:00:01,368 --> 00:00:04,269 Narrator: In the criminal justice system, the people are represented 2 00:00:04,304 --> 00:00:06,795 by two separate yet equally important groups... 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,705 the police who investigate crime, 4 00:00:08,742 --> 00:00:11,370 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,411 --> 00:00:13,379 These are their stories. 6 00:00:15,115 --> 00:00:17,481 (laughing) 7 00:00:19,085 --> 00:00:20,780 What is it? 8 00:00:20,820 --> 00:00:23,482 Ooh, that's a globe-thistle pod, 9 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:25,320 from a globe-thistle tree. 10 00:00:25,358 --> 00:00:27,451 Oh, okay. 11 00:00:29,129 --> 00:00:31,620 Get real, I can't just leave for lunch. 12 00:00:31,664 --> 00:00:33,632 Who says you gotta leave? 13 00:00:33,666 --> 00:00:36,328 I'm sure you've got a peanut butter sandwich for me. 14 00:00:36,369 --> 00:00:38,667 What do you got good to trade? 15 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:40,639 Dinner in SoHo, tonight? 16 00:00:40,673 --> 00:00:43,665 Okay, but I get to keep my Twinkies. (dog barking) 17 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:44,870 (chuckles) 18 00:00:44,911 --> 00:00:47,812 Hey, Tisha! Tisha, stay away from the dog! 19 00:00:49,149 --> 00:00:50,673 - (groans) - (dog barks) 20 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:52,378 It's not a stray, it has a collar. 21 00:00:52,419 --> 00:00:54,353 (screams) 22 00:00:56,356 --> 00:00:59,257 Are you okay? Did he bite you, huh? 23 00:01:05,865 --> 00:01:07,730 (whimpers) 24 00:01:09,335 --> 00:01:11,269 (siren blares) 25 00:01:14,941 --> 00:01:17,569 She's real cold... they say she's been out here for hours. 26 00:01:17,610 --> 00:01:19,237 What is it, a rape or a mugging? 27 00:01:19,279 --> 00:01:20,712 Don't know. She's in bad shape. 28 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:22,874 Skull's fractured, looks like she's been choked. 29 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:24,474 Do they think she's gonna make it? 30 00:01:24,517 --> 00:01:27,179 I don't know, they could barely find blood pressure. 31 00:01:28,188 --> 00:01:29,746 Hey, guys, move! 32 00:01:29,789 --> 00:01:31,950 - Where to? - St. Teresa's. 33 00:01:31,991 --> 00:01:34,926 Found this... on the path. 34 00:01:34,961 --> 00:01:36,986 Medic: Comin' through, comin' through. 35 00:01:43,570 --> 00:01:45,936 Cerreta: Has she been conscious? Has she said anything? 36 00:01:45,972 --> 00:01:48,873 She's in a coma, Detective... that tends to prevent speech. 37 00:01:48,908 --> 00:01:51,001 Go to the park, get your head crushed... 38 00:01:51,044 --> 00:01:52,909 makes you want to move someplace safe. 39 00:01:52,946 --> 00:01:55,847 - Didn't know there were any left. - Is she gonna get out of this? 40 00:01:55,882 --> 00:01:58,544 Cerebral hemorrhage, unaligned skull fracture, 41 00:01:58,585 --> 00:02:01,679 damage to the vocal chords, add the exposure... 42 00:02:01,721 --> 00:02:03,348 it's a miracle she's alive. 43 00:02:03,389 --> 00:02:06,756 If she survives this, she's in for a long recovery. 44 00:02:11,064 --> 00:02:14,033 - Are you the cops who sent us the Jane Doe? - Logan: Yep. 45 00:02:17,203 --> 00:02:20,366 Lucy Neven, 568 Central Park West. 46 00:02:20,406 --> 00:02:23,375 - You're kidding! - No, I made it up. Why? 47 00:02:23,409 --> 00:02:26,936 Major soap star... Delia Mason on "World Without End." 48 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:30,507 My mother watches it. She follows the stories like it happened to the neighbors. 49 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:32,814 Tell your mom she's in for a plot twist. 50 00:02:36,256 --> 00:02:40,352 (theme music plays) 51 00:04:00,273 --> 00:04:03,765 You believe this? They already got her buried. 52 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:05,334 She's not in great shape. 53 00:04:05,378 --> 00:04:07,539 If we don't crack this quick, we won't be either. 54 00:04:08,548 --> 00:04:11,711 Whatever's on your plate, clean it... this comes first. 55 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:15,016 Well, it ain't a mugging, 'cause she still had cash with her. 56 00:04:15,054 --> 00:04:17,249 Could have been interrupted, caught in the act. 57 00:04:17,290 --> 00:04:20,020 She's recognizable... this woman is on a soap opera every day. 58 00:04:20,059 --> 00:04:24,018 - That's his John Lennon theory. - It's not possible just because we never heard of her? 59 00:04:24,063 --> 00:04:27,794 The fact of the matter is, these people get accosted in the supermarket. 60 00:04:27,834 --> 00:04:31,497 Phil, nobody's sayin' "no," okay? It's a possibility. 61 00:04:31,537 --> 00:04:34,267 Now what about the girl... is she in any shape to talk to us? 62 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:36,172 Barely breathing. 63 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:39,574 Get what you can without her then, okay? 64 00:04:40,580 --> 00:04:43,777 I'm on double shifts these days. You got to take all the work you can get. 65 00:04:43,816 --> 00:04:46,717 Do you have people hanging around for her... fans, autograph hounds? 66 00:04:46,753 --> 00:04:50,120 Five, six a year. Ms. Neven, she keeps her address a secret. 67 00:04:50,156 --> 00:04:51,783 Hi. 68 00:04:51,824 --> 00:04:54,224 Thank you. Thanks. 69 00:04:54,260 --> 00:04:55,955 She was almost killed on the show. 70 00:04:55,995 --> 00:04:58,395 Do you believe in destiny, karma, that kind of thing? 71 00:04:58,431 --> 00:05:00,296 She was mugged in the park, not on TV. 72 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:01,994 Does she walk her dog on a schedule? 73 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:04,765 10:00 every night. I give Roxie a biscuit as they go out. 74 00:05:04,804 --> 00:05:06,635 Does Ms. Neven have a busy social life? 75 00:05:06,673 --> 00:05:10,074 A good-lookin' lady like that? My aunt gets more action... she's 60. 76 00:05:13,246 --> 00:05:15,612 They had to write her out of the show. 77 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:19,482 My mother thinks Lucy is so glamorous. 78 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:21,646 I've got it easy being her secretary. 79 00:05:21,688 --> 00:05:24,521 She has to work 12 hours a day. 80 00:05:24,557 --> 00:05:26,491 Did she have time to make enemies? 81 00:05:26,526 --> 00:05:29,654 She's up at 5:30, she's at the studio by 7:00, 82 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:32,062 she gets home, she's too tired to brush her teeth. 83 00:05:32,098 --> 00:05:34,726 That's hardly time for friends, let alone enemies. 84 00:05:34,767 --> 00:05:37,827 Could you tell us if anything she'd have with her is missing? 85 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:49,406 A ring... her grandmother's wedding band, 86 00:05:49,449 --> 00:05:51,246 and a medal... 87 00:05:51,284 --> 00:05:54,014 her father gave it to her, Saint Genesius. 88 00:05:54,053 --> 00:05:56,317 Saint Genesius, that's... 89 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:58,347 The patron saint of actors. 90 00:05:58,391 --> 00:06:00,416 But why take that? 91 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:02,519 They didn't take the money... that's crazy. 92 00:06:02,562 --> 00:06:05,429 Do you get requests from people who ask for things like that? 93 00:06:05,465 --> 00:06:07,399 I sort them. 94 00:06:08,634 --> 00:06:11,762 Weird, weirder, weirdest. 95 00:06:11,804 --> 00:06:13,863 These are just the past three months. 96 00:06:18,478 --> 00:06:22,005 "I cannot live with the idea that you are angry with me. 97 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:23,845 I know you would love my daughter. 98 00:06:23,883 --> 00:06:26,010 I didn't like it when you wouldn't talk to us." 99 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:28,111 A woman broke Lucy's skull? No. 100 00:06:28,154 --> 00:06:31,089 Pardon me, Dr. Freud, women don't get angry and violent? 101 00:06:31,124 --> 00:06:34,116 Whoa, I hope her mail is more interesting than mine. 102 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,822 No contest... these should be postmarked Bellevue. 103 00:06:36,863 --> 00:06:39,024 We have three solid cuckoos in town, 104 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:41,727 one in Atlanta, two in St. Louis, 105 00:06:41,768 --> 00:06:43,429 three in LA and one in Denver. 106 00:06:43,469 --> 00:06:46,370 They had to be local... stalked her, knew when she walked the dog. 107 00:06:46,406 --> 00:06:48,271 Still, I'll check the out-of-town alibis, 108 00:06:48,307 --> 00:06:50,002 you guys knock on some doors. 109 00:06:50,042 --> 00:06:53,842 First we get some fettuccini, then we knock on doors. Eh! 110 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,507 (knocks) 111 00:06:55,548 --> 00:06:58,278 Hello? Mr. Wadsworth? 112 00:06:58,317 --> 00:07:00,808 Man: Who's asking? Police. 113 00:07:03,289 --> 00:07:06,850 We are looking for nominations for Citizen of the Week, sir. 114 00:07:06,893 --> 00:07:09,020 I am Mr. Wadsworth, and there is not a person 115 00:07:09,061 --> 00:07:10,926 on this damn block worth nominating. 116 00:07:10,963 --> 00:07:13,989 Yes, and you're not the first one to say so, sir. 117 00:07:15,735 --> 00:07:18,932 I wrote her letters. She said in an interview... 118 00:07:18,971 --> 00:07:21,371 in lots of interviews... that she likes to get them. 119 00:07:21,407 --> 00:07:24,808 Jesse, if you could tell us where you were at 10:00 or 11:00. 120 00:07:24,844 --> 00:07:26,675 At my girlfriend's apartment. 121 00:07:26,712 --> 00:07:29,306 And then I got home... 122 00:07:29,348 --> 00:07:31,043 I don't know. Dad? 123 00:07:31,083 --> 00:07:34,780 I got home from the office at 9:00. 124 00:07:34,821 --> 00:07:37,289 Jesse got home... 125 00:07:37,323 --> 00:07:39,086 what, Jesse, 10:00? 126 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:40,752 Yeah, I think so. 127 00:07:40,793 --> 00:07:44,160 Ah, Olivia, our housekeeper... she'd remember. 128 00:07:48,201 --> 00:07:50,101 Olivia? 129 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:59,843 Olivia, Thursday night... 130 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:02,370 what time did Jesse get home? 131 00:08:02,415 --> 00:08:04,975 Around 10:30. 132 00:08:05,017 --> 00:08:07,417 I was watching the news, 133 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:09,580 Channel 9. 134 00:08:09,622 --> 00:08:11,852 Thank you. 135 00:08:11,891 --> 00:08:15,884 The biggest soap convention of the year... I wouldn't miss that. 136 00:08:15,928 --> 00:08:19,591 I was there Thursday morning to be there before the good stuff got sold. 137 00:08:19,632 --> 00:08:21,429 That's dedication for ya. 138 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:25,403 That comb... only $60. 139 00:08:25,438 --> 00:08:28,532 Delia was using it when she told Joel she wouldn't marry him. 140 00:08:28,574 --> 00:08:30,599 She's too good for him. Mmm. 141 00:08:30,643 --> 00:08:34,909 All the people there, maybe some dealers or somebody might remember you? 142 00:08:34,947 --> 00:08:36,938 I don't know. 143 00:08:36,983 --> 00:08:39,383 There were 6,000 people. 144 00:08:39,418 --> 00:08:42,046 Oh! I took the shuttle back. 145 00:08:42,088 --> 00:08:45,023 I threw out the ticket... I think it's right here. 146 00:08:50,663 --> 00:08:52,722 Thank you. 147 00:08:58,638 --> 00:09:01,334 PA system: Dr. Brent, report to nurse's station 4E. 148 00:09:01,374 --> 00:09:04,810 Dr. Brent, report to nurse's station 4E. 149 00:09:06,846 --> 00:09:10,077 Was he taller than you? Or the same height? 150 00:09:12,084 --> 00:09:13,915 Logan: Taller. 151 00:09:13,953 --> 00:09:15,682 So you got a good look at him? 152 00:09:18,758 --> 00:09:22,888 Blair: What, he was dark, he had a dark complexion? 153 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:26,962 Logan: All right. 154 00:09:31,938 --> 00:09:33,565 Is this the best you can do? 155 00:09:33,606 --> 00:09:35,130 With a woman who can't talk, 156 00:09:35,174 --> 00:09:37,301 she's good for about 15 minutes at a stretch. 157 00:09:37,343 --> 00:09:38,571 Thanks, anyway. 158 00:09:38,611 --> 00:09:40,943 - You got the staff list of the soap? - Yeah. 159 00:09:40,980 --> 00:09:43,608 Maybe someone was hanging around that door, bothering her. 160 00:09:43,649 --> 00:09:45,480 It's worth a shot. 161 00:09:45,518 --> 00:09:48,544 To me, they all look the same. 162 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:52,251 Autograph pads, sparkly pens with big, white balls on top... 163 00:09:52,291 --> 00:09:55,522 they line up outside. They can be difficult. 164 00:09:55,561 --> 00:09:58,325 Maybe Ms. Neven made one of her fans angry? 165 00:09:58,364 --> 00:10:01,162 She was very gracious, more than me. 166 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,101 The end of the day, I want to get home... I got a two-year-old kid. 167 00:10:04,136 --> 00:10:06,468 Did Lucy get close to anybody on the crew? 168 00:10:06,505 --> 00:10:08,700 I guess Sara was the closest. 169 00:10:08,741 --> 00:10:10,868 Cerreta: Was? 170 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:12,707 Lucy had her fired. 171 00:10:12,745 --> 00:10:15,111 - Something about stuff missing. - Man: Five minutes. 172 00:10:15,147 --> 00:10:18,241 - You mean she was stealing? - Sara said no. 173 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:21,048 L... I like her. 174 00:10:21,087 --> 00:10:23,783 But she didn't file a union grievance when she got canned. 175 00:10:23,823 --> 00:10:25,688 Did she have the right to file a grievance? 176 00:10:25,725 --> 00:10:28,455 Lucy was probably right. 177 00:10:28,494 --> 00:10:31,122 I got her another job... costume house. 178 00:10:31,163 --> 00:10:34,030 They supply us, other shows. 179 00:10:35,067 --> 00:10:36,967 I heard of Lucy turning on people, 180 00:10:37,003 --> 00:10:38,732 but I thought we really got along. 181 00:10:38,771 --> 00:10:40,636 Must have done wonders for your reputation. 182 00:10:40,673 --> 00:10:43,301 - I'm happy to have a job. - Cerreta: Why didn't you tell your union? 183 00:10:43,342 --> 00:10:46,641 I did. I did! 184 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,308 You think we didn't check? I'll put you on the phone with your shop steward. 185 00:10:50,349 --> 00:10:53,580 You know what they do with old costumes? 186 00:10:53,619 --> 00:10:55,849 Actors take 'em home. 187 00:10:55,888 --> 00:10:58,015 A guy corners me outside the studio, 188 00:10:58,057 --> 00:11:01,584 hands me 200... anything of Lucy's. Who would it hurt? 189 00:11:01,627 --> 00:11:05,188 What the hell is that? Thou shall not steal except when nobody gets hurt? 190 00:11:05,231 --> 00:11:07,290 I needed the money. 191 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,961 But then he started wanting slips, bras... 192 00:11:10,002 --> 00:11:11,833 that stuff doesn't belong to wardrobe. 193 00:11:11,871 --> 00:11:15,363 - That's a fine distinction. - Who was your source of income? 194 00:11:15,408 --> 00:11:18,343 Mitchell Burkitt, down on the Lower East Side somewhere. 195 00:11:18,377 --> 00:11:20,402 What did he do with Lucy's underwear? 196 00:11:20,446 --> 00:11:22,914 I really didn't want to know. 197 00:11:23,916 --> 00:11:26,350 Burkitt, Michael W. 198 00:11:26,385 --> 00:11:29,354 Criminal trespass two, burglary three. 199 00:11:29,388 --> 00:11:30,685 What does he like? 200 00:11:30,723 --> 00:11:33,021 Soap opera studios, movie locations. 201 00:11:33,059 --> 00:11:36,290 Also, an assault on a guard who tried to stop him. 202 00:11:36,328 --> 00:11:38,694 The supplier gets canned, no more underwear to sell. 203 00:11:38,731 --> 00:11:41,666 - A ring and a medal... bigger bucks. - Draw some arrest papers. 204 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:43,328 Phil, we're not even pregnant yet. 205 00:11:43,369 --> 00:11:45,360 Assault record? I want to be prepared. 206 00:11:48,507 --> 00:11:51,067 (rock music playing) 207 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:53,442 The stereo's on... he's at home. 208 00:12:01,654 --> 00:12:03,519 Man: Who is it? 209 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:05,854 Con Ed, checkin' for a gas leak. 210 00:12:08,461 --> 00:12:11,362 - Whoa! - Drop it! Drop it, don't even think about it, Mitch! 211 00:12:11,397 --> 00:12:13,058 Now! 212 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:15,465 Ow! 213 00:12:15,501 --> 00:12:18,163 You are under arrest for the attempted murder of Lucy Neven! 214 00:12:18,204 --> 00:12:19,762 Why didn't you say you were cops? 215 00:12:19,805 --> 00:12:22,205 You have the right to remain silent. If you choose... 216 00:12:22,241 --> 00:12:25,540 - You didn't say you were cops! ...anything you do say can and will... 217 00:12:26,545 --> 00:12:29,446 In my neighborhood, you wouldn't answer the door without a gun. 218 00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:31,973 Next time, get one that's licensed. 219 00:12:32,017 --> 00:12:34,577 I didn't do the lady. 220 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:36,451 What do you think, I'm crazy? 221 00:12:36,489 --> 00:12:39,458 Actually, you're about the sanest person we've met all week. 222 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,390 Why would I do her, huh? 223 00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:46,728 She's a cash cow... I survive on her stuff. 224 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:48,996 Not since you lost your source. 225 00:12:50,903 --> 00:12:54,999 So, Mr. Burkitt, where were you Thursday night? 226 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,270 I was alone. 227 00:12:57,309 --> 00:12:59,675 Prove I wasn't. 228 00:12:59,712 --> 00:13:01,339 Prove you were! 229 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:03,177 Your Lucy stuff... who buys it? 230 00:13:04,183 --> 00:13:06,048 Kleinman, down on 15th Street. 231 00:13:06,085 --> 00:13:09,577 - I want a lawyer. - Yeah, you'll get a lawyer. I'll even pay for the call. 232 00:13:09,622 --> 00:13:11,852 Don't ever say cops aren't generous. 233 00:13:14,193 --> 00:13:18,152 You want stills from "South Pacific," Mitzi Gaynor's shoes? Fine. 234 00:13:18,197 --> 00:13:20,324 Logan: Not Lucy Neven's underwear? 235 00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:22,129 Do I look like a pervert? 236 00:13:22,168 --> 00:13:24,636 Who buys Lucy's clothes? 237 00:13:24,670 --> 00:13:26,695 Customers' names... I'm sorry, it's private. 238 00:13:26,739 --> 00:13:30,038 Did you give Mitchell Burkitt an order to steal Lucy Neven's jewelry? 239 00:13:30,075 --> 00:13:32,805 I sell memorabilia... you think this is a hot car business? 240 00:13:32,845 --> 00:13:36,281 - You give me an order, I get it stolen for you? - Suppose we get a warrant, 241 00:13:36,315 --> 00:13:38,875 Mr. Kleinman, and we do an inventory, 242 00:13:38,918 --> 00:13:41,546 you think we're gonna find any stolen goods around here? 243 00:13:41,587 --> 00:13:44,181 - From a soap opera studio, maybe? - I never accept... 244 00:13:44,223 --> 00:13:46,282 Do you want us to start checking? 245 00:13:46,325 --> 00:13:49,192 You know, you're starting to make me a little impatient. 246 00:13:50,763 --> 00:13:53,527 Voorman. Tim Voorman. 247 00:13:53,566 --> 00:13:56,194 Works at the Club Vivant. 248 00:13:56,235 --> 00:13:58,726 Emcee: Ladies and gentleman, Tim Voorman. 249 00:13:58,771 --> 00:14:01,797 Mr. Voorman... Sergeant Cerreta, Detective Logan. 250 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,399 Very impressive. 251 00:14:03,442 --> 00:14:07,037 Louis Kleinman says you ordered Lucy Neven's intimate apparel. 252 00:14:08,614 --> 00:14:11,879 You think I was involved with...? 253 00:14:11,917 --> 00:14:15,409 Yeah, well, I also ordered Joan Collins's costumes. 254 00:14:15,454 --> 00:14:17,285 They help me get into character. 255 00:14:17,323 --> 00:14:20,190 - And they fit you? - Well, I'm very petite. 256 00:14:20,226 --> 00:14:24,026 Mr. Voorman, Thursday night... did you take a walk in the park? 257 00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:26,054 I don't believe this. 258 00:14:26,098 --> 00:14:29,397 I was here... two shows, 8:00 and 10:00. 259 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:35,799 You happen to leave between shows? 260 00:14:35,841 --> 00:14:39,333 Do you have any idea how long it takes to put on this face? 261 00:14:39,378 --> 00:14:41,869 And contrary to what you might think, 262 00:14:41,914 --> 00:14:44,075 I don't go out in public in drag. 263 00:14:44,116 --> 00:14:45,708 I do this for a living. 264 00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:48,652 Cerreta: This isn't your act, so you can pack in the attitude. 265 00:14:48,687 --> 00:14:50,746 Do you have any witnesses who saw you here? 266 00:14:52,358 --> 00:14:55,088 What's the mystery? 267 00:14:55,127 --> 00:15:00,224 I got a guy from Jersey who sees my Lucy act six nights a week. 268 00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:03,258 One guy, he wants to talk with Lucy about the plot on the show. 269 00:15:03,302 --> 00:15:07,204 Another one, a real weirdo, buys my Lucy dress. 270 00:15:07,239 --> 00:15:09,230 Who attacked her? One of them. 271 00:15:09,275 --> 00:15:12,608 - Who bought the dress? - Out of his mind. 272 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:15,170 He loved Lucy, he wanted to be with her. 273 00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:17,341 Offers 250... I thought he was kidding. 274 00:15:17,383 --> 00:15:19,214 500... I said no. 275 00:15:19,251 --> 00:15:22,015 1,000... I didn't want to sell it, but... 276 00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:25,284 he scared me a little. 277 00:15:25,324 --> 00:15:28,851 - You got the name? - He didn't ask for a receipt. 278 00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:34,093 Mr. Webster? Hi, this is Joe Harris from the Club Vivant. 279 00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:36,192 Mr. Nichols? 280 00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:38,328 Sam Jones, the Club Vivant. 281 00:15:38,370 --> 00:15:41,339 Mr. Voorman? He'd like to buy back that dress he sold you. 282 00:15:41,373 --> 00:15:44,433 You know the dress you bought from Tim Voorman? 283 00:15:44,476 --> 00:15:46,876 Okay. Sorry. 284 00:15:46,912 --> 00:15:49,005 - Thank you. - Sorry to bother you. 285 00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:52,211 We thought the letters were bad... these people are worse in person. 286 00:15:52,251 --> 00:15:55,982 Hello? Jesse Unger, please. 287 00:15:56,021 --> 00:15:58,956 Could you give me his work number then? Thank you. 288 00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:00,720 Mr. Markson? Hi. 289 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:02,852 This is Sam Jones from the Club Vivant. 290 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:05,796 Mr. Unger? Yeah, I'll wait. 291 00:16:05,831 --> 00:16:08,823 That Lucy Neven dress... the one you bought from Tim Voorman? 292 00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:11,301 Well, he would like... 293 00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:13,601 Sorry to bother you. 294 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,233 Mr. Unger? Yeah, this is Joe Harris, Club Vivant. 295 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:20,143 Mr. Voorman would like to buy back his Lucy Neven dress. 296 00:16:20,179 --> 00:16:23,512 Uh-huh. Oh. 297 00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:26,074 Yeah, well, certainly. Well, thank you. 298 00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:31,086 Mr. Unger wants to keep his dress. 299 00:16:31,123 --> 00:16:32,750 Really? 300 00:16:33,792 --> 00:16:36,556 I can't stop. This has to be done by tonight. 301 00:16:36,595 --> 00:16:39,996 - Did you buy the dress? - Yes, I did, for my collection. 302 00:16:40,032 --> 00:16:42,159 I needed something special. 303 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,233 Terrible, Lucy dying, hmm? 304 00:16:46,271 --> 00:16:48,068 Lucy didn't die, Jesse. 305 00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:51,565 No, on the show. They had to get rid of her. 306 00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:55,011 Thursday night, at your girlfriend's... what time did you leave? 307 00:16:55,047 --> 00:16:58,141 I already told you... about 10:00. 308 00:16:59,418 --> 00:17:01,511 Is your girlfriend Sandy at home, today? 309 00:17:01,553 --> 00:17:03,987 No, she's not. She's working. 310 00:17:04,990 --> 00:17:07,356 - (cash register rings) - You've got the wrong idea. 311 00:17:07,393 --> 00:17:10,885 Jesse, his Lucy scrapbook... it's a hobby. 312 00:17:10,929 --> 00:17:14,797 - Logan: That include buying her dress? - (chuckles) 313 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:16,801 You don't understand. 314 00:17:16,835 --> 00:17:19,133 Boy, you'll think I'm crazy. 315 00:17:19,171 --> 00:17:22,368 We went to a Tina Turner concert, Jess and me. 316 00:17:22,408 --> 00:17:26,037 I wanted her autograph. We waited in the cold two hours. 317 00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:28,205 But an autograph is not a dress. 318 00:17:28,247 --> 00:17:31,739 Lucy... to me, she's boring. So what? 319 00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:34,150 Jesse doesn't like Tina Turner. 320 00:17:34,186 --> 00:17:36,746 I mean, didn't you ever collect anybody? 321 00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:39,485 My wife has a lot of Rosemary Clooney records. 322 00:17:39,525 --> 00:17:40,822 Who? 323 00:17:40,859 --> 00:17:44,056 Ms. Reynolds, you said Mr. Unger left at 10:00 p.m., right? 324 00:17:44,096 --> 00:17:46,496 What you're thinking about Jesse... it couldn't be. 325 00:17:46,532 --> 00:17:48,932 Look, are you sure about the time? 326 00:17:48,967 --> 00:17:52,733 It might have been earlier... maybe a quarter of. 327 00:17:52,771 --> 00:17:55,797 We had an argument. 328 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:58,605 He wanted me to try the dress on. 329 00:17:58,644 --> 00:18:00,544 I didn't think it was right. 330 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:05,111 Quarter to 10:00, 10:00... 15 minutes... it really makes that big a difference? 331 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:08,347 Hey, 15 minutes gives him a lot more time to get to Lucy's. 332 00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:10,855 Sandy's on 97th Street. 333 00:18:10,889 --> 00:18:13,119 Jesse's home, 57th Street, 334 00:18:13,158 --> 00:18:15,023 30 to 45 minutes later. 335 00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:17,790 And Lucy lives in between at 65th Street. 336 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:20,025 All right, it's enough time, barely, 337 00:18:20,065 --> 00:18:22,056 if he knew when Lucy walked the dog. 338 00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:25,332 So he stopped by at Lucy's on his way home to what, to talk to her? 339 00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:28,806 - You're the one who talked to him. He look goofy to you? - He seemed fine. 340 00:18:28,841 --> 00:18:30,331 But who can tell anymore? 341 00:18:30,375 --> 00:18:32,468 31 years old, he still lives at Daddy's. 342 00:18:32,511 --> 00:18:36,003 And also he sprang for 1,000 bucks to buy Lucy's dress. 343 00:18:36,048 --> 00:18:37,879 What about his arrival time at home... 344 00:18:37,916 --> 00:18:39,907 how solid is that alibi? 345 00:18:45,023 --> 00:18:47,287 I have friends in the fashion world. 346 00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:48,987 Something wrong with that? 347 00:18:49,027 --> 00:18:50,722 So you got your son his job? 348 00:18:50,762 --> 00:18:53,788 I arranged an interview, they offered him the job. 349 00:18:53,832 --> 00:18:57,700 The woman's dress... that's $1,000. 350 00:18:57,736 --> 00:19:00,330 Your son can afford that on the job he has? 351 00:19:00,372 --> 00:19:04,741 Jesse's interests... he doesn't have to be like everybody else. 352 00:19:04,776 --> 00:19:08,906 Following an actress's career... it's harmless. 353 00:19:08,947 --> 00:19:10,744 Up to a point. 354 00:19:10,782 --> 00:19:13,182 Mr. Unger, when Jesse arrived home, 355 00:19:13,218 --> 00:19:16,312 your housekeeper said it was 10:30. You said 10:00. 356 00:19:16,355 --> 00:19:19,085 My son has problems, 357 00:19:19,124 --> 00:19:22,025 violence is not one of them. 358 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:25,052 Sandy was upset... the dress. 359 00:19:25,097 --> 00:19:27,657 I only wanted to see, if she has such a good figure, 360 00:19:27,699 --> 00:19:29,462 how'd she look in it, that's all. 361 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,560 We can clear this thing up easy. 362 00:19:31,603 --> 00:19:34,163 You left Sandy's apartment at 10:00? Mm-hmm. 363 00:19:34,206 --> 00:19:36,470 - Now, how'd you get home? - I walked. 364 00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:39,033 40 blocks in half an hour? 365 00:19:39,077 --> 00:19:40,942 You must be a marathon walker. 366 00:19:40,979 --> 00:19:43,209 Maybe I took a cab. 367 00:19:43,248 --> 00:19:44,909 Ahh. 368 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:47,851 You know what we oughta do? We oughta all go down to the precinct, 369 00:19:47,886 --> 00:19:50,514 we'll talk the whole thing over, we'll call the cab company, 370 00:19:50,556 --> 00:19:52,956 get the whole thing settled, you know what I mean? 371 00:19:52,991 --> 00:19:56,518 Um... okay, fine. Sure. 372 00:19:56,562 --> 00:19:57,927 Good. 373 00:19:57,963 --> 00:20:00,431 I'm sorry about Lucy. 374 00:20:00,465 --> 00:20:02,296 But hurting her? 375 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,427 No, I loved watching her. 376 00:20:04,469 --> 00:20:06,266 I have a little television at work. 377 00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:09,900 We want to remind you that you're entitled to a lawyer. 378 00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:14,242 Sandy will tell you. Olivia, she said that I came home at 10:30. 379 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:16,213 I would never hurt Lucy. 380 00:20:16,248 --> 00:20:18,273 Will you excuse me? 381 00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:28,857 He's in tooth fairy land, and he's scared. 382 00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:31,590 The hospital says Lucy has some paralysis, 383 00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:35,293 she still has trouble with blurred vision, but they will bring her over. 384 00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:38,792 Now do you think you can get this guy to volunteer for a line-up? 385 00:20:38,837 --> 00:20:40,668 I don't know. What if he won't? 386 00:20:40,706 --> 00:20:42,333 Heck if I know. 387 00:20:42,374 --> 00:20:44,069 Okay. 388 00:20:49,448 --> 00:20:52,349 Jesse, would you like to be in a line-up? 389 00:20:52,384 --> 00:20:54,477 If nobody identifies you, you go back to work. 390 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:56,919 A line-up? For who? 391 00:20:56,955 --> 00:20:58,320 Lucy Neven. 392 00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:23,574 Take your time. There's no hurry. 393 00:21:33,525 --> 00:21:35,186 (Lucy gasps) 394 00:21:36,461 --> 00:21:40,158 Oh my God. That's... that's him. 395 00:21:40,198 --> 00:21:44,794 He stopped me on the street a couple of times. 396 00:21:44,836 --> 00:21:46,963 Which one is he, hmm? 397 00:21:47,005 --> 00:21:50,566 It's num... number four. 398 00:21:50,609 --> 00:21:53,908 He said that he needed me. 399 00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:57,981 Let's get the video camera. 400 00:21:58,016 --> 00:21:59,984 One more shot at him and he's gonna talk. 401 00:22:00,018 --> 00:22:02,248 Yeah. 402 00:22:02,287 --> 00:22:05,484 Your dad will be here soon. You don't have to talk now. 403 00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:07,651 Was Lucy here? 404 00:22:08,927 --> 00:22:10,952 She says she saw you that night. 405 00:22:16,134 --> 00:22:17,965 (knocking on door) 406 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:28,536 Had these on him when he was booked. 407 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,960 Lucy's ring, Jesse. 408 00:22:50,402 --> 00:22:52,370 Her medal. 409 00:22:57,209 --> 00:22:59,370 Where'd you get these? 410 00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:02,974 She wouldn't listen. 411 00:23:03,014 --> 00:23:05,949 I just wanted to talk. 412 00:23:07,452 --> 00:23:09,784 She told me to leave her alone. 413 00:23:09,821 --> 00:23:12,221 I didn't want to hurt her. 414 00:23:13,792 --> 00:23:15,817 God, her eyes... 415 00:23:15,861 --> 00:23:19,058 if you saw her eyes. 416 00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:22,700 She walked right by me. 417 00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:26,697 She didn't say anything. 418 00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:30,640 I tried to tell her how I need her. 419 00:23:30,675 --> 00:23:33,303 I didn't want to hurt her. 420 00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:40,179 She just got tangled up in her dog leash... 421 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:46,079 and I went to help her, and she started hitting at me... 422 00:23:46,124 --> 00:23:48,524 and the dog was barking. 423 00:23:49,861 --> 00:23:51,954 I just wanted to talk to her. 424 00:23:54,065 --> 00:23:57,865 That's all, I ju... I just wanted to talk to her. 425 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:02,797 Olivet: How long have you been aware of Lucy Neven? 426 00:24:02,841 --> 00:24:04,832 Jesse: Ever since I can remember. 427 00:24:04,876 --> 00:24:08,039 - Olivet: Did you first recognize her on her TV show? - Come on, Ben... 428 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:11,515 - Jesse: Yes. - You saw that tape... this guy's got toys in the attic. 429 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:14,883 Is he competent enough to help you with his case? 430 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,354 I guarantee you he didn't know what he was doing. 431 00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:19,414 That's not the issue here, is it? 432 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,255 Can he help you defend him? 433 00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:24,057 Maybe he can, but he's still bonkers. 434 00:24:24,095 --> 00:24:26,461 He didn't know what he was doing when he attacked her. 435 00:24:26,498 --> 00:24:28,932 You don't know that and neither do I. 436 00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:31,731 Let's first see if he can stand trial. 437 00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:35,365 I've seen trials on TV. Lucy was in one. 438 00:24:35,407 --> 00:24:37,238 What happens at a trial, Jesse? 439 00:24:37,275 --> 00:24:39,641 Why are you asking me that, hmm? 440 00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:42,340 We both know they decide if you're guilty. 441 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:44,405 What does your lawyer do? 442 00:24:44,449 --> 00:24:47,179 He tries to defend me from... 443 00:24:47,219 --> 00:24:51,019 he keeps me from going to jail. 444 00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:53,581 Why would you go to jail, Jesse? 445 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:56,219 Sorry, Dr. Olivet, off limits. 446 00:24:56,261 --> 00:24:58,456 I'm not asking about the crime, Dr. Mandel, 447 00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,965 I'm asking if he understands why people go to jail. 448 00:25:00,999 --> 00:25:03,263 People go to jail because they break the law. 449 00:25:03,301 --> 00:25:05,496 Hurting somebody... is that breaking the law? 450 00:25:06,671 --> 00:25:08,502 These are stupid questions. 451 00:25:09,541 --> 00:25:13,341 Jesse, please... is it wrong to hurt somebody? 452 00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:15,744 I just wanted to talk to her. 453 00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:17,839 That's all. 454 00:25:21,486 --> 00:25:23,613 Your Honor, what is the argument? 455 00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:25,623 Mr. Unger understands the legal process. 456 00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:28,956 Ben, he babbled a confession. That doesn't give you a problem? 457 00:25:28,994 --> 00:25:32,293 He was frightened. That does not mean he's not competent to stand trial. 458 00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:34,821 He does not understand the criminal justice system. 459 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,767 - He knows what a trial is. - Hey, hey, this isn't a free-for-all. 460 00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:39,827 I ask the questions. 461 00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:43,170 You honestly contend he can't give you pertinent facts? 462 00:25:44,442 --> 00:25:46,307 Judge, he is suffering a neurotic denial. 463 00:25:46,344 --> 00:25:49,006 It is hard to get any information out of him at all. 464 00:25:49,047 --> 00:25:52,244 Well, I'll read the doctors' reports again. 465 00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:55,310 Meantime, Mr. Unger stays at Rikers. 466 00:25:57,022 --> 00:25:59,752 Man: Come on, Lucy, you can do it. 467 00:25:59,791 --> 00:26:02,055 Right to the end. 468 00:26:02,093 --> 00:26:03,822 Keep walking. 469 00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:07,191 It's a piece of cake. 470 00:26:12,203 --> 00:26:15,297 They say if we go to trial, that you'll be able to testify. 471 00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:17,274 It's your choice. 472 00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:19,573 Don't force yourself, honey. 473 00:26:19,611 --> 00:26:24,674 I'll testify if I have to crawl into the courtroom. 474 00:26:26,785 --> 00:26:29,185 He came after me before. 475 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:31,711 He called the house several times. 476 00:26:31,756 --> 00:26:35,419 Somehow he got the number. 477 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:37,451 If he doesn't go to jail... 478 00:26:37,495 --> 00:26:39,520 (coughing) 479 00:26:39,564 --> 00:26:41,259 (gasps) 480 00:26:53,845 --> 00:26:56,643 Lucy, I'll do everything I can 481 00:26:56,681 --> 00:26:58,649 to make sure that never happens. 482 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,111 Schreiber says we can indict him. 483 00:27:04,155 --> 00:27:06,248 He's competent to stand trial. 484 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:11,662 Does that serve justice... 485 00:27:11,696 --> 00:27:14,688 Jesse Unger on trial, Jesse Unger in prison? 486 00:27:14,733 --> 00:27:17,998 If he's responsible for his actions, yes, I think justice is served. 487 00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:21,130 Mr. Stone, my son, 488 00:27:21,172 --> 00:27:24,107 after he lost his mother... 489 00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:27,407 you can't imagine... I tried to help him. 490 00:27:27,445 --> 00:27:29,743 Why didn't you seek professional help? 491 00:27:29,781 --> 00:27:32,341 He's not like other people. 492 00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:34,579 He never seemed dangerous. 493 00:27:35,987 --> 00:27:37,682 Jack, it's your meeting. 494 00:27:37,722 --> 00:27:41,021 Reconsider going to trial, Ben... work out some kind of treatment for him. 495 00:27:41,059 --> 00:27:43,687 If they can protect Lucy Neven from him... 496 00:27:43,728 --> 00:27:46,663 - You know that they can't. - A jury can. 497 00:27:47,699 --> 00:27:49,997 All I've got to do is prove that he was insane 498 00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:53,027 at the moment he attacked her, not a second before. 499 00:27:53,071 --> 00:27:54,766 Not a second after. 500 00:27:54,806 --> 00:27:58,401 I've tried a lot of these cases, Ben, you haven't. 501 00:27:58,443 --> 00:28:01,037 I'm a quick study. 502 00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:03,013 Why is Gaffney so confident? 503 00:28:03,048 --> 00:28:05,448 Insanity defenses are not easy to win. 504 00:28:05,483 --> 00:28:09,044 Olivet'll testify he's not delusional. What more can we do? 505 00:28:09,087 --> 00:28:12,079 "Delusional"... fancy word. 506 00:28:12,123 --> 00:28:14,523 Might as well say "subordinated debenture." 507 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,756 A jury knows "crazy" and "not crazy," Paul. 508 00:28:17,796 --> 00:28:19,593 They don't know "legally crazy." 509 00:28:19,631 --> 00:28:21,929 You know what really worries me? 510 00:28:21,966 --> 00:28:25,231 I make my best case to prove he's sane, we lose. 511 00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:27,101 He goes to a hospital, 512 00:28:27,138 --> 00:28:31,575 I have to turn 180¡Æ and argue he is not sane 513 00:28:31,609 --> 00:28:34,601 so they keep him there. It's no-win. 514 00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:37,046 Maybe we make a deal... assault. 515 00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:40,074 Bad risk... goes away for a couple years, 516 00:28:40,118 --> 00:28:42,814 as soon as he gets out, he could kill that woman. 517 00:28:42,854 --> 00:28:44,651 (phone buzzes) 518 00:28:49,427 --> 00:28:51,418 Mm-hmm? 519 00:28:53,932 --> 00:28:57,231 Lucy Neven... better talk to her. 520 00:28:57,268 --> 00:29:00,965 How could they let him mail it? Why didn't somebody stop him? 521 00:29:02,941 --> 00:29:05,967 "I never wanted to hurt you. I had to bring you close. 522 00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:08,478 We're the same person. We'll always be close." 523 00:29:08,513 --> 00:29:10,413 I'm sorry, this shouldn't have happened. 524 00:29:12,183 --> 00:29:14,845 They put a watch on his mail today. 525 00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:17,377 He said we're the same person. 526 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:20,186 He sounds crazier than ever. 527 00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:23,490 He's shrewder than ever. He wants to sound crazy. 528 00:29:24,662 --> 00:29:26,596 Do we have to turn this over to Gaffney? 529 00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:30,901 If we don't turn it over, he's gonna get a subpoena anyway. 530 00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:33,028 Jesse's gonna tell him he sent the letter, 531 00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:35,665 and they're gonna use it to show how crazy he is. 532 00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:37,402 That's what he wants. 533 00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:43,837 Stone: And after reading the report of his personal history? 534 00:29:43,882 --> 00:29:45,543 I examined Mr. Unger. 535 00:29:45,583 --> 00:29:48,211 Did you reach any conclusions about his mental condition? 536 00:29:48,253 --> 00:29:49,686 Yes, I have. 537 00:29:49,721 --> 00:29:53,054 Mr. Unger has personality and character disorders. 538 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:55,389 He's obsessive-compulsive, 539 00:29:55,426 --> 00:29:58,361 and exhibits signs of extreme depression. 540 00:29:58,396 --> 00:30:02,196 Does this mean he is incapable of understanding the consequences of his actions? 541 00:30:02,233 --> 00:30:06,693 No, it means he's unhappy, and in some ways dysfunctional. 542 00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:10,401 In your expert opinion, does Mr. Unger suffer from any condition 543 00:30:10,441 --> 00:30:13,308 that would impair his ability to know right from wrong? 544 00:30:13,344 --> 00:30:16,177 Despite his emotional problems, in my opinion, 545 00:30:16,214 --> 00:30:20,548 Mr. Unger has a complete understanding of the consequences of his actions. 546 00:30:20,585 --> 00:30:22,280 Thank you. No further questions. 547 00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:24,879 Dr. Olivet, 548 00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:29,724 you spent three hours talking to Mr. Unger. 549 00:30:31,196 --> 00:30:33,061 Do you think that's sufficient time 550 00:30:33,097 --> 00:30:35,725 to make a judgment on his mental health? 551 00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:38,429 - Yes, I do. - Admirable. 552 00:30:38,469 --> 00:30:43,168 So you are telling this court, with absolute assurance, 553 00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:46,405 that Mr. Unger did not have an episode 554 00:30:46,444 --> 00:30:48,344 in which he did not know 555 00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:50,813 the consequences of his behavior? 556 00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:53,579 In my opinion, Mr. Unger knows right from wrong. 557 00:30:54,619 --> 00:30:57,782 He told me he'd been watching me 558 00:30:57,822 --> 00:31:00,518 because he knew I would... 559 00:31:00,558 --> 00:31:04,426 I would love him if only I met him. 560 00:31:04,462 --> 00:31:07,329 He was very excited, 561 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:10,801 so I tried to keep him calm, 562 00:31:10,835 --> 00:31:15,033 and then I tried to get away. 563 00:31:15,073 --> 00:31:17,633 He told me to stop. 564 00:31:17,675 --> 00:31:21,042 And when I didn't, he attacked me. 565 00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:27,913 Ms. Neven, prior to this attack, 566 00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:30,386 had you ever seen the defendant before? 567 00:31:30,421 --> 00:31:34,824 He accosted me on the street several times... 568 00:31:34,859 --> 00:31:37,953 I don't remember how many. 569 00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:41,693 He told me that he had called me on the phone. 570 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,326 What is your profession? 571 00:31:44,369 --> 00:31:48,237 I'm... I was an actress. 572 00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:50,298 You were an actress? 573 00:31:50,341 --> 00:31:52,138 Does that mean you don't expect 574 00:31:52,176 --> 00:31:53,905 to be able to continue your career? 575 00:31:53,945 --> 00:31:55,674 Objection... relevance. 576 00:31:55,713 --> 00:31:57,806 The extent of Ms. Neven's injuries is relevant 577 00:31:57,849 --> 00:31:59,817 to the attempted murder charge, Your Honor. 578 00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:02,911 Overruled. The witness will answer. 579 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:08,290 I'll be happy if I'm able to walk. 580 00:32:11,396 --> 00:32:13,523 Thank you. No further questions. 581 00:32:14,699 --> 00:32:16,690 Mr. Gaffney? 582 00:32:24,976 --> 00:32:27,638 I have no questions of this witness. 583 00:32:31,049 --> 00:32:34,177 - Olivet was convincing. - Convincing isn't the point. 584 00:32:34,218 --> 00:32:38,018 Did they understand "crazy" versus "legally crazy"? 585 00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:44,551 (bell jingles) 586 00:32:47,398 --> 00:32:50,856 Voices, delusions... convenient. 587 00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:54,702 The one illness that wins an insanity defense. 588 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:57,605 You read Mandel's transcript. 589 00:32:57,642 --> 00:32:59,507 Jesse talk about voices then? 590 00:32:59,544 --> 00:33:01,808 Mandel interviewed him again. 591 00:33:01,846 --> 00:33:03,575 Yeah, I wonder why? 592 00:33:03,614 --> 00:33:06,082 Gaffney... would he coach his client? 593 00:33:06,117 --> 00:33:09,245 Well, it's hard to believe. It's not his style. 594 00:33:09,287 --> 00:33:11,812 I'll tell you one voice Jesse Unger is hearing... 595 00:33:11,856 --> 00:33:14,381 the voice telling him how not to get convicted. 596 00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:21,461 Listen to this. "Mandel: 'Why didn't you tell me you heard voices? ' 597 00:33:21,499 --> 00:33:25,492 Jesse: 'The voice said not to tell you. My father said I should."' 598 00:33:25,536 --> 00:33:27,527 "My father said I should." 599 00:33:28,706 --> 00:33:30,867 Your interviews... no voices? 600 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,007 Is he delusional? 601 00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:37,014 Am I 100% sure? 99. 602 00:33:37,048 --> 00:33:40,040 - I'd prefer 100. - Never happens. 603 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,848 Somebody told Dad what would get Jesse off. 604 00:33:42,887 --> 00:33:44,878 Dad told Jesse. 605 00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:47,618 Voices are a very specific symptom. 606 00:33:47,658 --> 00:33:50,650 - Mandel. - Intentionally, I doubt it. 607 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:52,890 What about Gaffney? 608 00:33:52,930 --> 00:33:55,899 Paul read the transcripts of his other cases. 609 00:33:55,933 --> 00:33:57,798 Not all of 'em. 610 00:33:58,903 --> 00:34:01,030 Well, then, dig up the ones you haven't read 611 00:34:01,072 --> 00:34:03,939 and let's find out how crazy his other clients really were. 612 00:34:06,644 --> 00:34:10,512 After Jesse's mother died, he couldn't concentrate. 613 00:34:11,649 --> 00:34:13,708 He used to say he was going crazy. 614 00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:17,648 What was he most concerned about? 615 00:34:18,923 --> 00:34:21,414 He thought the world was going to blow up. 616 00:34:21,459 --> 00:34:23,825 What were some of his other problems? 617 00:34:25,530 --> 00:34:28,590 He said he heard voices in his head. 618 00:34:30,001 --> 00:34:31,969 Like a radio. 619 00:34:33,204 --> 00:34:35,001 Thank you. 620 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:42,410 Mr. Unger... 621 00:34:42,447 --> 00:34:46,406 when exactly did Jesse tell you he heard voices? 622 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:50,982 I think maybe in his sophomore year in high school... 623 00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:53,957 could have been earlier, maybe later. 624 00:34:53,991 --> 00:34:55,686 I can't remember. 625 00:34:55,726 --> 00:34:59,162 What did he say these voices told him? 626 00:35:02,066 --> 00:35:03,829 I can't remember. 627 00:35:03,868 --> 00:35:06,803 You remember he heard voices. 628 00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:10,035 I do. Yes, I do. 629 00:35:10,074 --> 00:35:12,804 Did you seek psychiatric care for your son at this time? 630 00:35:16,914 --> 00:35:19,508 No. Why not? 631 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:21,347 Well... 632 00:35:23,154 --> 00:35:24,917 I'm not sure why I didn't. 633 00:35:26,557 --> 00:35:28,616 That's odd. 634 00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:31,150 Thank you. 635 00:35:31,195 --> 00:35:35,427 Mr. Unger suffers from processive disintegration. 636 00:35:35,466 --> 00:35:39,061 One of the symptoms is command hallucinations... 637 00:35:39,103 --> 00:35:41,196 voices telling him to do things. 638 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,537 Now, Dr. Mandel... 639 00:35:43,574 --> 00:35:46,099 Jesse Unger told you 640 00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:50,274 that he heard voices telling him 641 00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:52,908 to kill Lucy Neven. 642 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:57,785 Would that mean that he was out of control of his actions? 643 00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,653 In my opinion, yes. 644 00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:03,524 Mr. Unger is often guided by an overpowering voice 645 00:36:03,561 --> 00:36:05,222 he believes to be real. 646 00:36:05,263 --> 00:36:07,094 Thank you, Doctor. 647 00:36:10,601 --> 00:36:13,195 "Processive disintegration." 648 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,170 Is that a recognized medical diagnosis? 649 00:36:20,211 --> 00:36:24,375 It's my language for a combination of disorders. 650 00:36:24,415 --> 00:36:27,509 So it does not exist in standard reference works? 651 00:36:27,552 --> 00:36:29,679 Yes, that's right. 652 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,746 Now you testified that you interviewed Jesse twice. 653 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:35,623 Did he mention hearing voices in the first interview? 654 00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:37,457 No, he was afraid to. 655 00:36:37,495 --> 00:36:40,931 So he never mentioned voices until you brought it up? 656 00:36:40,965 --> 00:36:42,728 - Yes. - Thank you. 657 00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:45,099 - But... - Thank you, Doctor. 658 00:36:46,304 --> 00:36:48,397 Stone: I think they're playing with the system. 659 00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:50,066 Lying? All of 'em? 660 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,536 You think the shrink coached 'em? 661 00:36:53,578 --> 00:36:55,671 Maybe. 662 00:36:55,713 --> 00:36:57,943 Gaffney? 663 00:36:57,982 --> 00:36:59,711 You don't think a lawyer would do it. 664 00:36:59,750 --> 00:37:03,015 Olivet doesn't think a shrink would do it. We're back where we started. 665 00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:06,023 He goes to a hospital, he says suddenly that he's cured, 666 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,958 he doesn't hear voices anymore, and he's out on the street again 667 00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:11,826 faster than Lucy Neven can change her phone number. 668 00:37:11,862 --> 00:37:14,422 (knocks) 669 00:37:14,465 --> 00:37:16,558 I finished Gaffney's cases... 670 00:37:16,601 --> 00:37:19,229 all the way back to '79. 671 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:23,172 13 insanity defenses, seven acquittals. 672 00:37:23,207 --> 00:37:26,643 Three of them, defendants were delusional after they started trial. 673 00:37:26,677 --> 00:37:29,646 - Right. - It's not a clear pattern. 674 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,841 I grant you it's questionable. 675 00:37:31,882 --> 00:37:34,510 Call Mr. Unger. Say, if he agrees, 676 00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:36,452 we'd like to meet with him alone. 677 00:37:39,156 --> 00:37:41,181 That's absurd. 678 00:37:41,225 --> 00:37:44,285 You think I would lie under oath? 679 00:37:44,328 --> 00:37:47,092 As a parent, yes, I think you would. 680 00:37:47,131 --> 00:37:49,429 You want my son in jail. 681 00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:51,697 Do you want me in jail, too? 682 00:37:52,903 --> 00:37:54,768 Do you have children, Mr. Stone? 683 00:37:54,805 --> 00:37:57,899 Are they healthy, happy? 684 00:37:57,942 --> 00:38:00,843 We all want our children to be happy. 685 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,014 If not so, at least protected. 686 00:38:05,049 --> 00:38:07,950 My son is sick. 687 00:38:07,985 --> 00:38:10,545 There is no dispute. 688 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:14,487 Good night. 689 00:38:21,766 --> 00:38:24,234 He had no right to drag Bill Unger down here. 690 00:38:24,268 --> 00:38:26,395 Mr. Unger was invited. 691 00:38:26,437 --> 00:38:29,565 You wanted him to implicate me in perjury. 692 00:38:29,607 --> 00:38:32,940 Three cases, your clients never heard voices until trial. 693 00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:35,036 Mandel was your shrink on two of 'em. 694 00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,845 If I want to discuss Jesse's symptoms with his father, that's my job. 695 00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:40,646 Jack, you're overplaying your hand. 696 00:38:40,685 --> 00:38:42,380 There's an appearance of impropriety. 697 00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:44,980 File a complaint with the disciplinary committee. 698 00:38:47,024 --> 00:38:48,821 The ghost of John Hinkley... 699 00:38:48,859 --> 00:38:50,827 that the problem? 700 00:38:50,861 --> 00:38:54,194 Shoots the President of the Untied States and gets off? 701 00:38:55,466 --> 00:38:57,434 You're desperate, aren't you? 702 00:38:57,468 --> 00:38:59,663 You want out of this? 703 00:38:59,704 --> 00:39:01,729 I'll plead it. 704 00:39:01,772 --> 00:39:03,433 Assault one. 705 00:39:04,975 --> 00:39:08,308 Gentleman, think about it. 706 00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:13,545 (door opens, closes) 707 00:39:13,584 --> 00:39:16,280 I don't know, Adam. Jesse Unger could walk. 708 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,811 Gaffney's bluffing with assault. 709 00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:22,087 He'll take manslaughter one, attempt. 710 00:39:25,963 --> 00:39:28,193 I should talk with Lucy Neven. 711 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,561 What does it mean? How long? 712 00:39:33,604 --> 00:39:37,040 A minimum of five years, a maximum of 15. 713 00:39:39,610 --> 00:39:41,874 What do you think? 714 00:39:43,013 --> 00:39:45,447 It's your life, but honestly, 715 00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:48,418 I don't know what that jury'll do. 716 00:39:50,955 --> 00:39:55,722 Is there any way we can make sure it's 15? 717 00:39:57,061 --> 00:40:01,054 The parole board? We can recommend. 718 00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:04,233 We have no control over them. 719 00:40:04,268 --> 00:40:06,793 And they're just as unpredictable as juries. 720 00:40:08,205 --> 00:40:10,435 Why me? 721 00:40:10,474 --> 00:40:12,704 I can't give him anything. 722 00:40:16,647 --> 00:40:20,606 I'll take my chances with the jury, 723 00:40:20,651 --> 00:40:23,085 if it's all right with you. 724 00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:27,451 Lucy, the jury... 725 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,495 it may not give you what you want. 726 00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:37,229 What I want is what I had. 727 00:40:41,906 --> 00:40:45,808 How often do you hear this voice, Jesse? 728 00:40:45,843 --> 00:40:49,609 Jesse: She talks to me when I get confused. 729 00:40:49,647 --> 00:40:52,616 It's a woman's voice? Mm-hmm. 730 00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:55,448 Does the voice have a name? 731 00:40:55,486 --> 00:40:58,853 No, she's... she's just there. 732 00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:00,447 What does she tell you? 733 00:41:00,491 --> 00:41:04,188 (chuckles) Can't talk about that. 734 00:41:04,228 --> 00:41:06,355 Gaffney: Jesse... 735 00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:11,494 did this voice tell you to hurt Lucy Neven? 736 00:41:14,004 --> 00:41:18,373 She told me that if Lucy wouldn't love me, 737 00:41:18,409 --> 00:41:20,934 that I had to kill her. 738 00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:26,740 Is this your handwriting? 739 00:41:26,784 --> 00:41:29,048 Mm-hmm. 740 00:41:29,086 --> 00:41:31,714 Did you write this to Lucy and send it to her? 741 00:41:31,755 --> 00:41:33,723 Yes, I did. 742 00:41:33,757 --> 00:41:36,817 I'd like you to read from the top, 743 00:41:36,861 --> 00:41:38,920 out loud to the court. 744 00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:44,325 "Dear Lucy, I know you understand, 745 00:41:44,368 --> 00:41:47,599 I never meant to hurt you. I wanted to protect you." 746 00:41:47,638 --> 00:41:51,768 Louder, son, so everyone can hear. 747 00:41:54,378 --> 00:41:57,779 "I know you understand I never meant to hurt you. 748 00:41:57,815 --> 00:42:00,181 I wanted to protect you. 749 00:42:00,217 --> 00:42:02,777 I know that you care about me. 750 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:05,084 I know we could be together. 751 00:42:05,122 --> 00:42:07,317 I would do anything for you. 752 00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:10,384 I didn't want to hit you. 753 00:42:10,427 --> 00:42:12,725 I love you. 754 00:42:12,763 --> 00:42:15,596 See, inside we're the same. 755 00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:17,828 We're the same people." 756 00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:22,035 Gaffney: Thank you, Jesse. 757 00:42:25,643 --> 00:42:27,668 Mr. Unger, how old were you 758 00:42:27,711 --> 00:42:30,874 when you first heard this woman's voice? 759 00:42:30,915 --> 00:42:34,009 I don't remember. She's always with me. 760 00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:37,380 And aside from Lucy Neven, 761 00:42:37,421 --> 00:42:40,254 did the voice ask you to hurt other people? 762 00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:42,589 I don't remember. 763 00:42:43,794 --> 00:42:45,591 If you had the opportunity, 764 00:42:45,629 --> 00:42:48,530 would you still want to talk with Lucy Neven? 765 00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:49,863 Uh-huh. 766 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:51,731 Would you continue to write to her? 767 00:42:51,769 --> 00:42:53,828 Yes, I'd have to. 768 00:42:53,871 --> 00:42:58,205 And if you had the opportunity, would you want to pursue a relationship with her? 769 00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:02,208 I don't know. Maybe. 770 00:43:04,081 --> 00:43:05,810 Nothing's changed. 771 00:43:05,849 --> 00:43:08,443 Stone: Nothing's changed? 772 00:43:08,485 --> 00:43:11,648 No. Nothing. 773 00:43:15,626 --> 00:43:18,151 So what are you to decide? 774 00:43:18,195 --> 00:43:22,222 In our society, we make exceptions for mental illness. 775 00:43:22,266 --> 00:43:25,030 But should that exception be made 776 00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:28,368 when it endangers the life of another human being? 777 00:43:28,405 --> 00:43:31,499 And Jesse Unger has made it perfectly clear 778 00:43:31,542 --> 00:43:34,807 that he will come after Lucy Neven again and again, 779 00:43:34,845 --> 00:43:36,972 until he gets what he wants from her. 780 00:43:37,014 --> 00:43:39,278 And if he can't have her, 781 00:43:39,316 --> 00:43:41,978 he'll make sure no one else does. 782 00:43:42,019 --> 00:43:44,715 Now, is this obsession insane? 783 00:43:47,391 --> 00:43:50,883 No one can completely know the mind of another human being. 784 00:43:50,928 --> 00:43:54,489 We can't crawl inside his skin and see the world as he sees it. 785 00:43:54,531 --> 00:43:56,465 However, we do know 786 00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:00,129 that Jesse Unger had no documented history 787 00:44:00,170 --> 00:44:02,798 of delusional episodes prior to this case. 788 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,332 In fact, he made no mention of delusions 789 00:44:06,377 --> 00:44:09,471 or hearing voices until after his father 790 00:44:09,513 --> 00:44:13,677 had asked for a second psychiatric evaluation. 791 00:44:13,717 --> 00:44:16,709 Now, under the law, we human beings 792 00:44:16,754 --> 00:44:18,585 are responsible for our actions, 793 00:44:18,622 --> 00:44:22,786 except for one thing... delusional mental illness. 794 00:44:24,428 --> 00:44:28,421 Jesse Unger's convenient and last-minute reporting 795 00:44:28,465 --> 00:44:32,060 of this condition is a responsible act. 796 00:44:32,102 --> 00:44:36,004 He knows, as clearly as you or I, 797 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,634 that he brutally attacked Lucy Neven. 798 00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:40,974 And he knows just as clearly 799 00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:44,742 what he has to do to escape punishment. 800 00:44:44,782 --> 00:44:49,742 Now, he destroyed Lucy Neven's life. 801 00:44:51,388 --> 00:44:53,856 Hold him responsible for it. 802 00:44:58,429 --> 00:45:00,522 Judge: On the sole count of the indictment, 803 00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:03,294 attempted murder in the second degree, how do you find? 804 00:45:03,333 --> 00:45:05,824 We find the defendant guilty. 805 00:45:05,869 --> 00:45:09,032 - (audience murmuring) - Judge: I thank the jury for their service. 806 00:45:09,073 --> 00:45:10,904 - (gavel strikes) - Court is adjourned. 807 00:45:10,941 --> 00:45:12,636 Sentencing hearing to be scheduled. 808 00:45:12,676 --> 00:45:15,804 - Man - Man 809 00:45:15,846 --> 00:45:17,814 Thank you. 810 00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:39,366 Well, you may not be happy. Lucy Neven is. 811 00:45:39,403 --> 00:45:42,338 You know as well as I do that the law ought to be changed. 812 00:45:42,372 --> 00:45:44,237 Juries are not psychiatrists. 813 00:45:44,274 --> 00:45:46,742 He never got the help he needed, Ben. 814 00:45:46,777 --> 00:45:49,405 And the jury followed the only law we've got. 815 00:45:49,446 --> 00:45:52,677 We're not gods. We're not even angels. 816 00:45:53,984 --> 00:45:56,885 He should be in a hospital. We put him in jail. 817 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,727 (theme music plays) 818 00:46:13,777 --> 00:46:18,327 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0